Greg's Voice?


In the previous post I tried to show that Mary and Greg probably walked past Cercy's vehicle as they left Rainbow Village. Thomas testified that he did.

Let's consider the possibility that Greg's voice was the "voice that sounded white" that Vivian Cercy said she heard that night.  I've discussed how Cercy heard a voice that "sounded white" in another post. (The 'White' Voice)  Here's the relevant section again:

"[...] Cercy heard two male voices, one of which sounded white, talking behind her car. The person with the white voice said, ‘Leave her alone; she's got two kids.’ A few seconds later there was a knock on the window of the driver's door and Cercy saw a man wearing a pea coat. He asked her name and where she was staying. [Cercy told the man she was staying with Harry Shorman.] When he asked what color bus Harry owned, Cercy asked the man why he was questioning her. The man said he was going to kill her.  Cercy immediately blanked the man's face out of her mind and could give no description[,] including the color of his skin. The man walked away without saying anything else." (In Re Ralph International Thomas on Habeas Corpus, p. 7)

I've discussed Vivian Cercy's account of seeing Greg and Mary with Bo doesn't fit into a timeline laid out in court documents, ("Harry and His Ugly Little Bitch Vivian") and  I’ve suggested that it's possible she got times wrong.  In one of her comments, Venus in Style states she believes, "Vivian witnessed the entire event and told the truth that in partiality Harry [Shorman] forced her to tell intermingling the events transpired."  If Vivian intermingled how the events transpired then this would explain the discrepancies in her estimations of the time things happened.

I suggest it's possible that Thomas, Mary, and Greg walked from Rainbow Village toward the landfill office together.  As they passed Vivian's car, Thomas walked toward the vehicle, and it's Greg who said to Thomas "Leave her alone; she's got two kids." Greg had been staying in the Village long enough to know this, and from what little I've been able to intuit about him, he seems like someone who'd have not wanted to have Vivian or her kids scared by Thomas in the middle of that dark night.

It's possible that Vivian heard Greg's voice…

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